RPG Circus Season 3 Episode 8 - We have an invasion from Lamentations of the Flame Princess.

Welcome to Season 3 Episode 8 of RPG Circus

Episode Topics

  • We interview James Raggi from LotFP about the Grindhouse Edition of LotFP
  • We interview Zak S and Mandy from Playing D&D with Pornstars and I Hit It With My Axe about Vornheim: The Complete City Kit Relased by LotFP
  • We Discuss why you can't use your Creative Writing Course to run a RPG Session

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Faking Class, Or Can You Impersonate a Class and Win Friends?

Being an old gamer does have it's advantages. For one thing, I have a library of old gaming stuff that I can look through from time to time. Last night I was doing just that. I started reading an old Dragon magazine article about using Magic-user (This was for AD&D) spells to simulate another class. It even had lists of spells that could be used to simulate spells from other classes. There were even spells that could be simulated by faking it. After all a spell like Detect Evil, What's to prevent someone from saying they cast it and there was not results? This got me to thinking, could a player actually get away with saying that their character was another class?

One thing to start with is the fact that there are two points of view for the players. There is the in-character and out-of-character (meta-gaming) knowledge and perceptions. For example, if a player was wizard and trying to say he was rouge a few things would come up. First most players share too much meta-game information to make this work on a player to player basis. Second, even without share, meta-information players have might ruin the ruse. After all, players are going to demand that other players use certain class features and feats that other classes don't have. Take the rouge's sneak attack ability. People are going to suggest/demand that a rouge to use that ability. It sort of ruins the ability of players to "fool" other players . So on the surface player to player is sort of out.

What about player to non-player character (NPC), or NPC to player? Here is an area that has possibilities. As the Game Master, your not going to forcing your players to use certain class feats or features. This means that the players can make an NPC think the player's character is of a certain class, race, or even alignment. As a Game Master, you base an NPC's reactions based off of what the players present. The same is true of NPC's. Heck, it even works better that way. Many NPC's can just be a name and basic description. There is no need for classes, skills, or feats for NPCs that players are just going to interact with and not fight. As Game Master you may need to fake a stat, skill, or other characteristic, but you don't normally need to do so. In these cases, you can actually write that the NPC claims to be one class and the players normally take that at face value. Now, some of you might think you need to have disguise or bluff checks. I would say that things like that are only required if the NPC is doing something that might make someone guess that they are not who they say they are. Let's face it, you see a guy in a pointy hat. He has a wand and claims he's Mandrake the Wizard. Initially, do you think most people might guess he's not? Now, if a someone was dressed like a beggar and claimed he was a wizard, then you might be a little skeptical. Still for the most part we tend to accept people initially for who they claim to be. So at least from the in-game point of view, it's very easy to handle player's characters pretending to be other classes and the like. All they need is the right attitude, a few basic skills, and maybe a few spells or magic items to simulate another class. Although, the right attitude will get them pretty far.

So what about the first case, player to player. Could you fool other players? Normally, I'd say no. However, if you have a Game Master that willing to do the work with player then it's possible to do it short term. The reason I say it's short term, is that it's going to be a lot of work to keep things from the other players. First off, the player should know the game system pretty well. They are not going to be able to normally ask other players with help with certain rules or spell descriptions. They are going to have to work with Game Master how to do certain things. For example, let's say someone is pretending to be a rouge. The player could roll for the sneak attack damage, but give the Game Master the normal damage and the sneak attack damage. The Game Master would then just apply the normal damage. Since this sort of thing can not be kept up for long, I think both the player and the Game Master should find ways to work in clues that things are not what they seem. After all, this is going to be hard to do , even if I actually think this is interesting Role-Playing challenge for a player. I don't think the Player or the Game Master is going to be able to hide it from the other players for ever.

So what about you? Have you ever had your character to pretend to be another class? Was it just for NPCs or did you try to fool the party? If so, how hard was it? I look forward to seeing your answers.

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Review: Weird West

Want a little Kung-fu, six-guns, and wizardry? Well that's what Weird West hopes you do. The description at Drive ThruRPG is as follows.

The streamlined and fast playing adventure roleplaying game for weird western worlds of cowboys, kung-fu, magic and otherworldly malevolence.

The entire rulebook so to speak is only 8 pages. It was done this way, so it can be in pocketmod format. As matter of fact when you purchase it off of Drive ThruRPG, you get both a pocketmod version and the standard version. The standard version is easily readable by both my Droid X smartphone and my Kindle DX. On my Kindle DX, I think the font seemed too big, but since this was designed to work with much smaller screens, I can understand that.

Character Generation is simple as a starting character you get four points to split among 4 attributes: Fighting, Grit, Magic, and Skill. The only one you need to have at least one is Grit. It is used to determine your Stamina Points, which is sort of like Hit Points in D&D. Each character will then choose a path: Adventurer, Gifted, Fighter, or Magician. These will provide the attributes modifiers as the characters advance in level. One thing that I did find interesting was how stamina points worked. Each session you roll you stamina points. You roll one die based on your path for each Grit point you have, which is why you need at least one when you first make up your character. If the roll is higher than what's you have currently, you use that one instead. I'm not sure if I understand the idea here completely. I guess it is meant as a way to make sure players have as many stamina points as possible.

Level advancement is at the groups choice. They get to decide when and if characters advance. Normally, I might consider this a cop-out but since this is simple game and I would not think that this is something to run a long term campaign with, I don't see this as a big issue. Like most level based games, players are assumed to start at level one

As was noted in the description, there is magic available. For each point of Magic, a player gets one spell/weird ability. In sense, nothing covered under mundane skills or mundane fighting is considered Magic. For example, if you want to be Kung-Fu person, you would need to have 1 point of magic so you could take Shaolin Monk. There are only a few abilities listed in the magic section. Enough to get you started, but there could be more in the future.

When your player attempts to do things, they are called 'Tasks'. A Task is resolved with a d6 with a five or greater indicating success. You get to add the relevant attribute and subtract the challenge level. All and in all pretty simple.

Combat in Weird West is pretty simple. Initiative is based off level, higher level characters go first. A fighting action is chosen. This can modify your fighting and your skill for that round. The attacker's modified fight and the target's modified defense is compared is cross referenced on a chart which gives you a target number to beat on d20. After looking at the chart, I would simply say, 10 + target's defense - modified fight is the number you need.

In addition to the rules to handle damage and healing, that's all that is in the rule book. Like many PocketMod games, you have to add additional material yourself. This is not a bad thing. games in this category are suppose to be simple and fast to play. A good Game Master should be able to scenario for this genre.

Overall, I think the rules do what they need to do. Be simple and allow someone to run a quick game. I'm likely going to print out the pocket mod version and put it with my Microlite20 PocketMod Rules. Which of course is in my backpack. The only thing that would help is an adventure in PocketMod format. Sadly because my current group doesn't do much beyond D&D, I'll have to wait for some people that are open to non-D&D games.

Weird West is available for 1 USD at Drive ThruRPG

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Season 3 Episode 7 - So a Guy Walks Up to You in a Bar

Welcome to Season 3 Episode 7 of RPG Circus
Episode Topics
  • The Environment in Which We Game
  • The Number of Players a GM Can Handle
  • Pros and Cons of Patrons
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Number of Players at the Table

Yesterday, I was flipping through on old book of mine, Gary Gygax's Role-Playing Mastery. In one section, he had a little to say about the maximum number players that a Game Master can handle while maintaining a good game. He set that number to three or four players.

What's interesting is that is the number of positions in the old standard party. You know the one where there is a fighter, a magic-user (wizard), cleric, and thief (rouge). It really sort of makes me wonder if that number was sort of influenced by that concept in some way. Of course it could have been the reverse as well. Honestly, I'm not sure which came first, I'm just sure that there is some sort of link between the two concepts.

In the same area, talked about using a Game Master's assistant. Someone who could handle some of the GM administrative work. Gygax, basically suggested that with such an assistant a GM could handle eight players without make his game suffer. Of course, I'm not sure anyone would want to be an assistant. Much like the working world, assistants seem to get none of the glory or respect that the person they give assistance to gets. As GM, I'm not sure if I'm down with someone not really playing and not really the GM. But that's my opinion.

Still, what is maximum number of players that can be handled at the table without assistance? I've always thought that six was my personal number. Any more than six and you have no idea what the hell is even going on. And even if you do, you will find that a few players will monopolize you time. Of course I guess the same could be said about any number of players. I do now that no matter what, there is a limit of some sort. Once a long time ago, I played in a group with about ten to twelve people. That's right ten to twelve people. The adventure involved some sort of war and we were in some sort of castle siege. Since there were so many players, the poor GM couldn't help but focus on a few people at time. This meant there were long stretches with nothing to do. We actually started to do other things while we waited for our turn. This became a huge disconnect for us. Since we were not paying attention, we sometime had no idea what exactly was going on. I dare say that game ended poorly. Eventually, I think group broke into two groups, which is what sort of needed to happen in the first place.

So what is the maximum number of players you can handle as a GM? What are your thoughts on a GM Assistant? Have you ever used a GM assistant? Finally, what is the largest group he have ever played with and how successful was it?

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Choosing a Game Day

When I was a young boy, I use to be able to game whenever I wanted. Which of course makes sense. When your 13 to 17 years old, you really don't have all that many things that are demanding your time. Or it was at least that way for me. I remember doing gaming weekends, where we would start Friday evening and play until about midnight. We would get up the next day and start gaming Saturday at noon and play until midnight again. Finally, we would get up on Sunday and start playing at noon and then stop by sundown. It was a pretty gaming intensive time for me. I'm actually sort of glad I was able to do it then because today, I don't game that much. Hell, I dare say the amount of gaming that we got done in a weekend is more gaming than I do in about two months. On a side note, I'm not sure why my mother let me do that. I guess she just like the fact that she knew what I was doing and who I was doing it with. I should note that most of the people I gamed with when I was in High School were either in the Military or going to college. Which when thinking on it, makes me wonder how much faith my mother had in me. But I ramble on. The point is that I did a lot of gaming when I was a boy and now that I'm an adult I don't game that much anymore. Now, we have to pick a day to game on and try to make that happen. With only seven days to choose what day works best? Let's take a look.

Monday - An interesting option to say that least. I think it's hard to get people for a Monday. Most people I know just started the work week and they usually don't want to do anything on a Monday.

Tuesday - I like Tuesday. I think Tuesday could be a good day for gaming. My only problem is that many of my son's weekly activities seemed to be on a Tuesday. I guess because it's the second day of the work week people feel safe doing things that day. I seem to know only one group that played on this day and they were all college students and didn't have classes on Wednesday.

Wednesday - "Hump" Day. I've known a few groups that play on Wednesday. I usually don't because we normally record on the podcast on this day. That and there were always seems to be other functions that press for my time when I'm not recording the podcast.

Thursday - One of the groups I played off and on with use to do Thursdays. Nominally, we use Thursdays as a backup day if we can't record on Wednesday. This sort of means that I can't play this day. I'm not sure if my friends even play on this day anymore.

Friday - As an adult, it use to be that this day was bad because everyone I knew would go out this night. Now that I'm married, we sometimes use this as a date night, but not as much as we use to. I think for now, I'm just too tired from the week to run or play most of the time on Fridays.

Saturday - Oddly this is one of the few days that's still generally OK for me. It's also traditionally the day when most people can game. The only down side is that as adult, this is a day with possibly the most conflicts. I send out an email to my players a week in advance to see they can game. Since we only play every other week, it tends to work out for us.

Sunday - I'm played a few sessions on Sunday as an adult, but most people I know use it as a day of rest before they go to work the next day.

In short, It seems like I'm going to be sticking with Saturday for now. Although, I might be up for trying a game on a Thursday. What is your best day of the week to game and why?

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RPG Circus Season 3 Episode 6 - Don't Forget Your Companions.

Welcome to Season 3 Episode 6 of RPG Circus

Episode Topics

  • Archetypes
  • NPC Companions
  • Games within Games

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RPG Circus Season 3 Episode 5 - We Apply a Little Leverage

Welcome to Season 3 Episode 5 of RPG Circus

Episode Topics

  • The Leverage RPG and the Cortex System
  • Play by Email and Play By Post
  • The Firearms in Fantasy Games and the Myths and Mystique Surrounding Them

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    Phil (aka ChattyDM)

    Mark

    Jeff



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RPG Circus Season 3 Episode 4 - RPGGeekdom Unite!

Welcome to Season 3 Episode 4 of RPG Circus

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  • RPGGEEK.com
  • By Listener Request, More about Rolemaster



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RPG Circus Season 3 Episode 3 - BASHful? Not Us!

Welcome to Season 3 Episode 3 of RPG Circus

Episode Topics

  • Interview with BASH Creator Chris Rutowsky
  • Problem Players
  • Finding Monster Miniatures



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